Manual Trans - Clutch has no resistance
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12-10-2008 | 04:49 AM
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I just changed my manual transmission fluid to ATF Dexron III as per the manual and "LowSaturn". I had no problems and filled the transmission to roughly 2.6 quarts and once filled, I checked the dipstick and it was in the hash marks. I drove the car for about 15 minutes and then found that my clutch pedal has very little resistance when depressing it. In other words, it feels very light almost as if it isn''''t doing anything. However, the clutch still engages and disengages perfectly and smoothly with no slipping of any sort or noises or roughness or anything. It feels great but the clutch pedal is just very "light". Is this a problem or is it just due to fresh fluid and it lubricating better and I just was used to the clutch having more resistance due to dirtier or older fluid?
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12-10-2008 | 04:15 PM
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Does the clutch feel drastically different then it did before the fluid service? Because the transmission fluid and the clutch fluid are unrelated. So just changing the trans fluid should not have any affect with the clutch. Your shifts may be a little bit smoother because of the new fluid but thats it.One possibility is that air could have somehow gotten into the clutch line and all you would have to do is bleed the slave cylinder. All said and done, saturn clutches don''t have much resistance anyway seeing how it wasn''t designed to be a performance car
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12-11-2008 | 04:33 AM
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Yea, I know that the clutch fluid and trans fluid are not related but the clutch pedal could feel different based on how the clutch disc is performing. Like I say, the pedal just feels light but the clutch still works perfectly with no problems. I''m just curious if something bad has happened or if it''s coincidence to start occurring after changing the trans fluid or simply because the trans fluid is lubricating better.
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01-05-2009 | 10:33 AM
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sounds like you have a little air in your clutch lines, not a big problem at all. you just have to bleed the clutch peddle. if you don''t know how to bleed the peddle find the clutch valve (I don''t know where it is on the saturn cars) and open it up (probably witha small wrench or something) then have the clutch fluid sylanoid filled with fluid, pump the clutch 1-2 times (make sure the lid of the sylanoid is on, worse problems will happen if you leave it off), then checked the fluid level in the sylanoid, if it needs to be filled a little then fill it up, if the fluid level doesn''t go down... you aren''t doing it right... there will be clutch (brake) fluid that comes out of the run off hose (the clutch line) so yuse a bucket or something, not all that big of a deal if you get brake fluid in your engine bay just try to avoid it if possible.
back to trouble shooting, after you pump the clutch and fill the resivour a few times, you should find that the clutch is starting to get harder, once it''s at a perfect feeling (back to normal), that means all the air is out or should be out, then close the clutch line and checked the resivour, make sure it''s right to the MAX line and close that and away you go
good luck with that, and if that doesn''t solve your problem you might have a loose clutch cable (which means paying alot more and probably going to a shop if you aren''t car savy)
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01-05-2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasper_B
sounds like you have a little air in your clutch lines, not a big problem at all. you just have to bleed the clutch peddle. if you don''''t know how to bleed the peddle find the clutch valve (I don''''t know where it is on the saturn cars) and open it up (probably witha small wrench or something) then have the clutch fluid sylanoid filled with fluid, pump the clutch 1-2 times (make sure the lid of the sylanoid is on, worse problems will happen if you leave it off), then checked the fluid level in the sylanoid, if it needs to be filled a little then fill it up, if the fluid level doesn''''t go down... you aren''''t doing it right... there will be clutch (brake) fluid that comes out of the run off hose (the clutch line) so yuse a bucket or something, not all that big of a deal if you get brake fluid in your engine bay just try to avoid it if possible.
back to trouble shooting, after you pump the clutch and fill the resivour a few times, you should find that the clutch is starting to get harder, once it''''s at a perfect feeling (back to normal), that means all the air is out or should be out, then close the clutch line and checked the resivour, make sure it''''s right to the MAX line and close that and away you go
good luck with that, and if that doesn''''t solve your problem you might have a loose clutch cable (which means paying alot more and probably going to a shop if you aren''''t car savy)
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01-06-2009 | 10:36 AM
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Take this with a grain of salt as I am not an expert, and am just relaying something I read on the interwebs elsewhere:
I read somewhere that Dexron III should no longer be used, because since the time that Dexron III was spec''d for the Saturn, the formulation changed. the poster said that Dexron IV should be used instead as it meets/exceeds the old Dexron III specs.
You may want to search a bit on this... I''ll see if I have time to find it later, I''m supposed to be working now :P
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01-06-2009 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by alordofchaos
Take this with a grain of salt as I am not an expert, and am just relaying something I read on the interwebs elsewhere:
I read somewhere that Dexron III should no longer be used, because since the time that Dexron III was spec''''d for the Saturn, the formulation changed. the poster said that Dexron IV should be used instead as it meets/exceeds the old Dexron III specs.
You may want to search a bit on this... I''''ll see if I have time to find it later, I''''m supposed to be working now :P
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01-06-2009 | 12:09 PM
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Whoops, never mind - it was DexII and Dex III, got it mixed up.
http://www.********/forums/showthread.php?p=1256938#po st1256938
"The Dexron II is replaced by Dexron III." Sorry about that.
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01-06-2009 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by alordofchaos
Whoops, never mind - it was DexII and Dex III, got it mixed up.
http://www.*******forums/showthread.php?p=1256938#po st1256938
"The Dexron II is replaced by Dexron III." Sorry about that.
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01-06-2009 | 03:54 PM
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ok, I use to work at Honda as a mechanic and I''ve seen this alot, when you shift gears while turning a sharp corner or stopping or accelerating, the liquid could shift cause the tubes to suck air up, I''ve seen it a million times, no leaks in the lines just air, all I ever had to do was bleed the lines (it''s easier then you think), and problem solved
give it a shot, let me know if you need any help
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